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E9: Justin Harlan, on changing how a city is seen

Interviewing the builders, doers, and creators powering Buffalo's economic revival.

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Justin Harlan runs Experience Tulsa and Tulsa Remote, the program that has drawn thousands of remote workers to a city that used to register as flyover country. He joins the Series B Podcast to talk about how Tulsa built its innovation economy, where the inflection point came, and why getting people to move is the easy part.

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We get into the perception problem that Buffalo and Tulsa both know well, how the George Kaiser Foundation's money met a business community willing to align behind one message, and what Harlan means when he says retention starts with belonging. He also shares what he took home from Buffalo after a talent attraction summit, a Bills game, and a round of wings.

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Plus Last Call, where we find out his podcast speed and his coffee order.

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