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E9: Justin Harlan, on changing how a city is seen

Interviewing the builders, doers, and creators powering Buffalo's economic revival.

Justin Harlan runs Experience Tulsa and Tulsa Remote, the program that has drawn thousands of remote workers to a city that used to register as flyover country. He joins the Series B Podcast to talk about how Tulsa built its innovation economy, where the inflection point came, and why getting people to move is the easy part.

We get into the perception problem that Buffalo and Tulsa both know well, how the George Kaiser Foundation's money met a business community willing to align behind one message, and what Harlan means when he says retention starts with belonging. He also shares what he took home from Buffalo after a talent attraction summit, a Bills game, and a round of wings.

Plus Last Call, where we find out his podcast speed and his coffee order.